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How to Book an Owner Meeting on a Cold Call, Every Time
The cold call script I used to buy hundreds of apartments: a specific reason to call, a true story, and ending the call first while momentum is high.
Most people lose the meeting in the last ninety seconds of a good phone call. The call goes well, the owner opens up, they give some advice, and then the caller keeps talking until all the momentum drains out of it. By the time the ask comes, the owner says "shoot me a text and I'll check my calendar," and that deal is gone forever.
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This is part one of the art of the deal series, and it's the piece nobody teaches: how to book the meeting. This is the secret sauce, and it's how I can book a meeting with anyone.
I spent my entire career learning how to do this. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars of commissions and millions of dollars of sales to learn exactly this. It's what allowed me to buy hundreds of rental properties.
Why Sales Is the Whole Game in Real Estate
A little backstory. I started out selling apparel for a group called the SanMar Group. From there I went to selling land advertising, which got bought by the CoStar Group: the company that owns Apartments.com, Homes.com, LoopNet, and a bunch of other websites, basically all of the commercial real estate data. That's how I eventually ended up in real estate.
But real estate is a sales, marketing and negotiating game. If you learn these skills, which are very easy to learn, you can absolutely crush the acquisitions side of multifamily.
Learning how to book the meeting took me from a sub-six-figure earner to making over $4 million a year in my sales job, every single year. I never had a big problem with closing. Closing and negotiation get their own videos later in this series, and I'll go super in depth. But you don't get to that phase unless you get more pitches.
When you're building a sales pipeline, you need the optimal number of pitches first. Then you can work on how many of those pitches turn into meetings, and then how many of those meetings turn into closed deals. We're not there yet. Right now I just want more meetings in the door. That means learning how to get a yes on the phone.
The Core Principle: Something Very Specific to Have a Very General Conversation
Here's the strategy for the owner meeting: the call you make to someone who owns a piece of real estate you don't yet own. I believe I've just about perfected this.
The first thing you need is something very specific to call about, in order to have a very general conversation.
Let that sit for a second. Very specific, to have a very general conversation. Your goal is to ride the momentum and be the first one to end the phone call.
When I was calling and I only owned a couple of duplexes and I wanted to buy this 38-unit building, the call started like this:
"Hey, this is Christian. I was calling about your 38-unit building down the street."
Their first answer, almost every time: "Well, I'm not selling it."
"Awesome. I'm not buying it. Couldn't if I wanted to: I actually just spent my last dollar on a duplex. I recently became your property neighbor."
"Oh, that's interesting."
Notice we have no momentum yet. That's fine. The specific thing was just the door.
Then Tell Them Something Relatable That's Actually True About You
The next thing I say is the story. Why am I actually calling them?
For me: I'm trying to retire my wife. I bought two duplexes. I learned that's not going to retire her as fast as I want. She just got injured. I'm looking at the business you've built. I drove past this building a few days ago and I keep thinking about it. I do not know how to get to the business that you have already built. How do you do it?
You may still get a cold response to that, but usually they start to warm up. I'm not calling to sell them anything. I'm not calling to buy the building. I have a pretty basic question and a reasonable reason to be calling: they've done something I haven't done yet.
Usually they either start opening up with some advice, or you need one more question.
Say they respond with, "That's great, I'm not sure how I can help you. I saved up for years and years and years. I bought a bunch of duplexes, sold them, and eventually got into larger multifamily."
Perfect. Respond positively to what they said, then ask the follow-up:
"That's awesome. If I was trying to follow the same pathing, I'm only two duplexes in. Would you (if you could go back in time) continue to just buy duplexes like I am and scale up slowly, or is there a way you've found where I might be able to jump from where I'm at to where you're at on a faster timeline? I don't believe small multifamily and single family is the path I'm trying to take."
Around this point the answer you usually get is, "You know what, I did learn that later in my experience." And then they tell you a story. "I was buying the small properties. Once I learned to buy the bigger ones, I really did scale out of that pretty quick. You're learning this early." They'll give you some encouragement.
That's what you're waiting for.
The Moment Everything Flips: Get Off the Phone
This applies to any meeting you're booking. A sales appointment. An owner meeting. Selling ad space online. It's all the same.
The call starts out cold, because it is in fact a cold call. You're not calling to sell them anything, you're calling to get a warm response. By the time you get them to open up, there's now momentum.
And now that they're talking, the mission is: how fast can we get off the phone?
Your odds of booking the meeting go astronomically up if you are the one to end the conversation while there is still momentum.
So you dive in: "That is absolutely perfect. I want to learn how to do this. I love the business you built. This is something I'm trying to do. And honestly, you're the first person who's taken my call: I appreciate this a ton. I'm an owner in your market, but I'm a really small fish in your very big pond."
Then give them something specific. Book the meeting on the call, and you're done.
"Hey, I'm in town on Wednesday at 3. I'm not sure if you live anywhere near this property, but is it possible to get coffee when I'm in town next week?"
Often I've already looked up before the call and I know they live in town. Either way, keep it a soft close. Don't be a creep and say, "Hey, I looked up your home address, I know you live down the street." Just say something normal. "This is super helpful. You've done what I want to do. Favor to ask: can we get coffee for 15 minutes?"
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When momentum is high, it is super awkward to tell you no. It's awkward to have a casual conversation where someone is opening up to you and the next thing they say is, "I appreciate this, are you able to meet?" and you turn them down.
The Mistake That Kills the Booking
Here's what a lot of people do wrong. They keep going in the conversation. They add another relatable point, and now the call has gone on for five minutes. They've talked about what they wanted to talk about. They've gotten some applicable advice from the seller. And in the owner's head, the transaction is complete: I gave them what they called for.
Now when you ask for a meeting, the response is, "I'm not sure we have anything else to talk about." It's easy and natural for them to deflect: "Oh, shoot me a text, I'll check my calendar."
Hit them when the momentum is high. That's the one trick.
Tell them a specific story that is true about you. I'm trying to do X, which you have already done. I have a very basic question about X, and it's open-ended. Once you can get them talking, your mission is to get them to stop talking and continue the conversation over coffee.
If you end the call without booking the meeting, you lose. It's easy to say no or defer, so you get stuck in the endless cycle: "Yeah, shoot me a text." You text them, they don't text back. You text again. "Let me check my schedule." You're stuck.
Book it on the call instead. "Hey, shoot me your email address, I'll send you a calendar invite." It's not booked: it's on the calendar.
They should hang up thinking two things: Wow, I liked that person. And, did I just book a coffee meeting? I never do that. That's what it should feel like.
What This Looks Like as a Weekly System
I did this at CoStar and got booking after booking after booking. The first half of my day on Monday, I'd book out my entire week. The rest of the week was actual selling, where I could focus on the closing and negotiating piece. You do not get those at-bats if you don't learn these skills.
Today, I do about two calls like this a day: maybe ten calls a week. Acquisitions take me about 15 minutes of time on the phone every single week. These are short, quick calls.
And I meet with one person for coffee every week. By the end of the year, I've met with 52 people.
If you ever wonder why I might own more real estate than you (which is true of most people; if you're bigger than me, disregard this, you have your own systems and processes) this is how I'm doing it, and this is why I'm as successful as I am. It takes me unbelievably little time. It is ridiculously effective.
What I end up with is a bunch of relationships with people who know where I'm at and where I'm going. They're bought into the story. We've had a meaningful interaction and an actual real relationship. And they've taken a meeting with me that they're not taking with anyone else.
Key Takeaways
- Get more at-bats first. You can't work on closing until you're consistently getting in front of people.
- Open with something very specific (a particular building) to earn a very general conversation.
- Follow it with a story that is actually true about you, and an open-ended question about how they got where they are.
- The second they open up and momentum is high, stop the conversation and ask for 15 minutes over coffee.
- Book it on the call. Get their email and send a calendar invite before you hang up. "Shoot me a text" is where meetings go to die.
- Two calls a day, one coffee a week, 52 high-level owners a year: for about 15 minutes a week on the phone.
Watch the full video above to hear how the calls actually sound, since the tone carries as much as the words. Part two covers the soft skills once you're in the room, and part three covers exactly what to say in the owner meeting. If you want the full training, you can learn about my mentorship at mentorship overview, grab the free multifamily course at multifamilystrategy.com/get-free-training, and join our Facebook group to swap notes with other investors making these calls.
Read the episode transcript
0:00 Now that they're talking, the mission is 0:02 how fast can we get off the phone? Your 0:03 odds of booking the meeting go 0:05 astronomically up. If you are the one to 0:07 end the conversation while there is 0:08 still momentum, buckle in. Today we are 0:11 sharing the secret sauce. This is how I 0:13 can book a meeting with anyone. I 0:15 actually spent my entire career learning 0:17 how to do this. Hundreds and hundreds 0:18 and hundreds of thousands of dollars of 0:20 commissions, millions of dollars of 0:22 sales to learn exactly this. This allows 0:24 me to buy hundreds of rental properties. 0:26 I use sales, marketing, and negotiating 0:29 strategies in everything that I do in 0:31 this business. In this episode, I'm 0:33 going to share a bunch about sales, 0:35 specifically how I booked the meeting 0:37 every single time. Now, a little 0:38 backstory on me. I actually started 0:40 selling apparel for a group called the 0:42 Sanmark Group. I went from that to 0:43 selling land advertising, which got 0:45 bought by the CoStar Group, who owns 0:46 apartments.com, Homes.com, Loopnet, a 0:50 bunch of other websites, uh, basically 0:52 all of the commercial real estate data, 0:54 which is how I eventually ended up in 0:55 real estate. However, real estate is a 0:58 sales, marketing, and negotiating game. 1:00 And if you can learn these skills, which 1:01 are very easy to 1:03 learn, you can absolutely crush the 1:06 acquisitions part of multif family real 1:08 estate. Today's episode, we're talking 1:10 about how I booked the meeting. Now, 1:11 this took me from a sub6 figure earner 1:15 to making over a4 million a year in my 1:17 sales job every single year. I learned 1:19 how to get a yes to the meeting every 1:21 time. See, I never had a big problem 1:22 with closing. And yes, I'm going to go 1:23 into closing and negotiation. In future 1:25 videos in this series, I'm going to go 1:27 super in-depth. But you don't get to 1:29 that phase unless you get more pitches. 1:31 When you're doing a sales pipeline, you 1:33 need to get the optimal number of 1:35 pitches. And then you can work on, okay, 1:38 out of these pitches, how do I get more 1:40 meetings? Are these meetings? How do we 1:41 close more deals? We're not there yet, 1:43 though. I want more meetings. How do we 1:46 actually get more meetings in the door? 1:48 You need to learn how to get a yes on 1:49 the phone. The owner meeting, when you 1:52 call someone who owns a piece of real 1:53 estate that you know do not yet own. 1:55 Here's the strategy for this. I believe 1:57 I have just about perfected this. First 2:00 thing you're going to do is you need to 2:01 find something very specific to call 2:02 about to have a very general 2:03 conversation. Let that sink in for a 2:05 second. Very specific to have a very 2:08 general conversation. Your goal is to 2:10 ride the momentum and be the first one 2:12 to end the phone call. Let me explain. 2:16 Specific. When I was calling and I only 2:18 owned a couple duplexes and I wanted to 2:20 buy this 38 unit building. The phone 2:22 call starts like this. Hey, this is 2:25 Christian. I was calling about your 38 2:27 unit building down the street. Their 2:28 first answer almost every time, well, 2:30 I'm not selling it. Awesome. I'm not 2:32 buying it. Couldn't if I wanted to. 2:33 Actually, I just spent my last dollar on 2:34 a duplex. Uh, recently became your 2:36 property neighbor. 2:37 Oh, that's interesting. Notice we have 2:40 no momentum yet. Here's the next thing I 2:43 say. Something relatable that's true 2:45 about you. That is your story. Why are 2:46 you actually calling them? For me, I'm 2:49 trying to retire my wife. I bought two 2:51 duplexes. I learned that is not going to 2:54 retire her as fast as I want to. She 2:56 just got injured. I am looking at the 2:58 business that you've built. I drove past 2:59 this building a few days ago and I keep 3:01 thinking about it. I do not know how to 3:03 get to the business that you have 3:05 already built. How do you do it? Now, 3:07 you may get a cold response to this, but 3:09 usually you start to get them a little 3:11 bit warmer. Okay, so I'm not calling to 3:13 sell them anything. I'm not calling to 3:14 buy the building. I have a pretty basic 3:16 question. I have a reasonable reason to 3:18 call them. They've done something that I 3:20 have not done yet. They'll usually give 3:23 you either some advice and start opening 3:24 up here or you have to ask one more 3:26 question. Example, I'm trying to retire 3:29 my wife. They'll respond with, "That's 3:33 great. I'm not sure how I can help you. 3:35 I saved up for years and years and 3:37 years. I bought a bunch of duplexes. I 3:38 sold them and eventually I got into 3:40 larger multif 3:42 family. Okay, perfect. Respond 3:45 positively to what they're saying. 3:48 Perfect 3:48 example. That's awesome. If I was trying 3:51 to follow the same pathing, I'm only two 3:53 duplexes in. Would you, if you can go 3:55 back in time, continue to just buy 3:56 duplexes like I am and scale up slowly, 3:58 or is there a way that you have found 4:00 where I might be able to jump from where 4:02 I'm at to where you're at in a faster 4:04 timeline? I don't believe that small 4:06 multif family and single family is the 4:07 path that I'm trying to do. Now, usually 4:10 around this time, the response they'll 4:11 get is, you know what, I did learn that 4:13 later in my experience. And then they 4:15 share a story with you. You know, I was 4:17 buying the small properties. Once I 4:18 learned to buy the bigger ones, I really 4:19 did scale out of that pretty quick. 4:20 You're learning this early. They'll give 4:22 you some encouragement. But here's what 4:24 you're waiting for. And this is any 4:25 meeting you're booking. This is for a 4:27 sales appointment. This is for an owner 4:28 meeting. This is for selling ad space 4:30 online. It's all the same. 4:32 The calls start out cold because it is 4:34 in fact a cold call. You're not calling 4:36 to sell them anything. You're calling to 4:38 get a warm response. By the time you get 4:40 them to open up, there's now momentum. 4:42 Now that they're talking, the mission is 4:45 how fast can we get off the phone. Your 4:47 odds of booking the meeting go 4:48 astronomically up. If you are the one to 4:51 end the conversation while there is 4:53 still momentum, you dive in. Hey, that 4:55 is absolutely perfect. I want to learn 4:57 how to do this. I love the business that 4:58 you built. This is something I'm trying 5:00 to do. And honestly, you're the first 5:01 person who's taken my call. Like, I 5:03 appreciate this a ton. I'm an owner in 5:05 your market, but I'm a really small fish 5:07 in your very big 5:08 pond. I am. And then give them something 5:11 specific. Actually, book the meeting on 5:12 the call and then you're done. Hey, I'm 5:14 in town on Wednesday at 3. I'm not sure 5:17 if you live anywhere near this property, 5:19 but is it possible to get coffee when 5:21 I'm in town next week? Now, often I 5:23 actually do look up before the call and 5:25 I do know that they live in town, but 5:27 either way, a soft close. Don't be a 5:29 creep and say, "Hey, I looked up your 5:30 home address. I know that you live down 5:32 the street." Just say something normal. 5:34 Hey, this is super helpful. You've done 5:35 that what I want to do. Favor to ask. 5:38 Can we get coffee for 15 minutes? Now, 5:39 when momentum's high, it is super 5:41 awkward to tell you no. It is awkward to 5:43 have a casual conversation with someone 5:45 where you are now opening up and the 5:46 next thing they say is, "Hey, I 5:47 appreciate this. Are you able to meet?" 5:49 Now, here's what a lot of people do 5:51 wrong. They keep going in the 5:53 conversation. They add another relatable 5:54 point and now the conversation's gone on 5:56 for 5 minutes. Now they've talked about 5:58 what they want to talk about. They've 6:00 got some applicable advice from the 6:01 seller and they're like, "Okay, they 6:04 gave me what I called for." Now when you 6:06 ask for a meeting, they're like, "I'm 6:07 not sure that we have anything else to 6:08 talk about." It's easy or natural to 6:11 deflect or say, "Oh, shoot me a text. 6:12 I'll check my calendar." Hit them when 6:14 the momentum is high. That one 6:17 trick. Tell them a specific story that 6:20 is true about 6:22 you. I am trying to do X that you have 6:25 already done. I have a very basic 6:28 question about X, but it's an open-ended 6:30 question. Once you can get them talking, 6:33 now your mission is to get them to stop 6:34 talking and continue the conversation 6:37 over coffee. I did this in Co-Star and 6:40 got booking after booking after booking 6:42 after booking. And my first half of the 6:44 day on Monday, I'd book out my entire 6:46 week. The rest of my week was actually 6:47 selling where we could focus on the 6:49 actual closing and negotiating piece 6:51 that is sales and marketing. You do not 6:53 get those at bats if you do not learn 6:55 these skills. specific point into a 6:58 general topic. When there is momentum 7:00 and they go from a cold call to someone 7:02 who is actually engaged, you now switch 7:05 from, hey, I'm trying to open up the 7:06 call to, I'm trying to end the call as 7:08 quickly as possible. If you end the call 7:10 without booking the meeting, you lose. 7:13 Now, it is once again easy to say no or 7:16 defer. So, you get stuck in the endless 7:18 cycle of, "Oh yeah, I'll shoot you a 7:19 text." You text them, they don't text 7:21 back. You text them again. Oh, let me 7:22 check my schedule. You get stuck. If you 7:25 can book the call on the meeting, hey, 7:27 shoot me your email address. I will send 7:29 you a calendar invite. It's not booked. 7:30 It's on the calendar. They should end 7:33 the call being like, "Wow, I liked that 7:35 person." Also, did I just book a coffee 7:37 meeting? I never do that. That's what 7:38 that should feel like. Now, in our next 7:41 episode, we're going to talk about what 7:42 that meeting actually looks like. So, 7:45 stay tuned for that. But we're going to 7:46 talk about what it looks like when you 7:47 actually meet with them. How do you go 7:49 from, hey, we just met on a phone call 7:51 to, "Hey, we're talking about doing 7:52 deals. We're talking about buying real 7:53 estate, transacting, and I'm learning 7:55 actual applicable things to build this 7:58 relationship and build my business. How 8:00 do you get someone else to help you move 8:02 you forward? We're going to go into 8:03 that. But you do not get that at bat if 8:05 you do not land the call. By the way, I 8:08 do about two calls like this a day, 8:10 maybe 10 calls a week. Acquisitions take 8:12 me about 15 minutes of time on the phone 8:14 every single week. These are short, 8:16 quick calls. Now, I meet with one person 8:19 for coffee every week. By the end of the 8:20 year, I've met with 52 people. If you 8:22 wonder why I might own more real estate 8:24 than you, which is true of most people. 8:25 If you're bigger than me, you can 8:27 disregard this. You have your own st 8:28 systems and processes. You can do 8:29 however you want to do this. If you have 8:31 less rentals than me, this is how I'm 8:33 doing this, and this is why I'm as 8:34 successful as I am. This takes me 8:35 unbelievably little time. It is 8:37 ridiculously 8:39 effective. And I get a bunch of 8:41 relationships who know where I'm at, 8:42 where I'm going. They're bought into the 8:44 story. We have a meaningful interaction. 8:46 We have an actual real relationship. and 8:49 they've taken a meeting with me that I'm 8:51 not taking with anyone else. This is how 8:52 you play the game. This is a master 8:54 class on sales communication in real 8:56 estate.
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